In an interview in 1991, Spalding Gray said:
“Personal storytelling is very important to me because we’ve become so media-ized that we begin to think the stories the stars tell on Johnny Carson are more important than ours. And whenever I interview people, interview the audience onstage, and I draw their stories out, the audience beg
ins to realize it is a radical move. That everyone has interesting stories if they can learn how to shape them. If I am a preacher, or a proselytizer at all, it’s to say, ‘Get together with friends, tell stories, listen. Turn off the TV, put down the book, listen to a story.’ Because the more we are fragmented and the more people are moved around and are in motion and the bigger this country gets and the more media-ized it gets, tied together only through television, the more healing it is to tell personal stories about your day. It gives you a personal history, and it gives you a sense of existence and place.”
(Jeffrey Goldman, “Dancing with the Audience: A Conversation with Spalding Gray, Actor, Writer, Monologist, and Connoiseur of Neuroses,” Dramatics 63 (November 1991), pp 24 – 29)
If we are in need of testimony as to the importance of participation in the arts, Gray’s words provide it. What he refers to as being “media-ized” is actually the process that turns art into a commodity and the public into passive consumers who buy their creativity instead of doing it themselves.
Study after study shows that after a certain income level (a few thousand dollars over the poverty line), happiness flattens out — no matter how much money you have, no matter how much you can buy, happiness doesn’t increase. By turning the arts into something that is done by a specialized “creative class” and that is sold to a passive audience, we have removed one way to actually increase personal happiness.
Sharing your story, molding your life experience into narrative and sharing it with people, as Gray notes, “gives you a personal history, and …gives you a sense of existence and place.” When we substitute corporate-created mass art for the stories of our own lives, our own experiences we lose a sense of history and of place. We end up living in some abstract sphere of imagination that has nothing to do with the details of our day to day lives.
When I started on the journey of this project, I was totally committed to finding a way for artists to create their art in a local setting. Now that is secondary. Yes, I think artists creating art is important, but I also think artists need to facilitate the creation of others. They need to inspire people to “Get together with friends, tell stories, listen. Turn off the TV, put down the book, listen to a story.” Or sing a song, or paint a picture, or create a quilt. Within in context, the art that artists create can serve as object lessons, as something that others can learn from and aspire to — not simply something they can buy or consume.
ins to realize it is a radical move. That everyone has interesting stories if they can learn how to shape them. If I am a preacher, or a proselytizer at all, it’s to say, ‘Get together with friends, tell stories, listen. Turn off the TV, put down the book, listen to a story.’ Because the more we are fragmented and the more people are moved around and are in motion and the bigger this country gets and the more media-ized it gets, tied together only through television, the more healing it is to tell personal stories about your day. It gives you a personal history, and it gives you a sense of existence and place.”
Thanks for posting this- it’s encouraging to see that I’m not totally crazy for having this sort of dream. I’m still working out how to do it here in Germany by trying stuff out, but unfortunately it’s a new idea and thus not many see the value in it.
Yes, we have become very much committed to the specialist model. It will take quite a lot of change it, but fortunately it isn’t necessary to change it, but rather it is possible to simply leave it behind and create a whole new model.
Thank you for this…
I have been blessed to have many good storytellers in my daily life…and LOVE the beautiful simplicity of this idea.
As long-time fans, we have greatly missed the powerful narratives Spalding always found a way to share with the world…and I hope somewhere out there he is aware of all the people he continues to inspire daily…
Peace
-Amy
Scott,
Glad you’re back posting. I have a question about your recent emphasis on empowering the creative process of the audience. Do you think that the experience of making theatre is more valuable than the experience of theatre itself? I ask, because as much as I love making theatre, I have found my experiences as an audience member equally important.
I’m interested in a balance between both, and clearly the balance between them needs to be righted. But I’m curious if you think the creative act is inherently more valuable than the shared experience of that act.
Thanks — good to be posting again. I don’t think it is necessary that everyone create — yes, it is valuable to be in the audience, too. But I think the pool of creators needs to be broadened. We need to do plays by regional playwrights, for instance — those voices need to be heard. Spalding Gray tells HIS stories — others need the same opportunity. And there needs to be an approach to production that spreads the wealth — bills of short plays, for instance.
This is one of the areas I’ve been thinking about in terms of new curricular development in a BA program. All my options at the moment center on community arts development at both ends: skilled performers offering performances, as well as those same performers offering their skills to communities to help them achieve the same. It can work both ways, I think, and be mutually fulfilling.
YES! What else can I say to this post, Scott? As you know, this is what Wisconsin Story Project is all about — by giving the company (somewhat specialized in that we are all artists) the chance to create work that is really given to us by our community, we also give our community the opportunity to share their lives, their creativity. We recently began recording a series of podcasts (we call them storycasts) in hopes of providing even more direct access to our neighbors around the state and their stories. We hope to have the first of them up on the Web this month.
Yes, Mike, you are doing excellent work with the Wisconsin Story Project. I think if Robert Gard were alive today, he’d be investigating how to use podcasts in the same way you are to distribute the voices and stories of the people. It is unfortunate how we, as artists and also as citizens, have lost sight of the concept of The People that was so powerful in the first part of the 20th century. You can’t read authors like Percy MacKaye, Alfred Arvold, Frederick Koch, or Robert Gard without recognizing the power that such a conception gives to our work. I think the world of podcasts, as well as the entire web 2.0 movement, is breaking down the reliance on specialists, and that is all to the good.
Hey Scott,
I am not a blogger or even much of a blog reader, as you know but having spoken with you on the phone I wanted to catch up with your work. I believe that telling our own stories is a way of owning power. Owning the power of our own experiences, the lessons, learned, the efforts to overcome challenges, the small joys- all of the tiny events that makes us human. The stories don’t have to be big and the means of sharing them does not either. There is a hunger out there for real stories shared in many different forms. Look at the success of ventures such as The Moth, This I Believe, the Center for Digital Storytelling, Story Corps. Although some of the organizations behind these story gathering efforts have grown into good sized institutions, the stories themselves are embedded in new media and portable- small enough to fit in your pocket. Having spent over twenty years creating community based theater I do understand and appreciate the power that arises from bringing a community together to share and listen to each other’s stories in a formalized theater event. But after years of doing larger and larger projects, I am now drawn to working on a more intimate scale. I know things shift when actors tell stories gathered from within their community. But I also feel that same shift when my students ( all non-arts majors) create and share memory boxes in answer to the questions – who am I and where do I come from. What I believe now is that artists can’t just gather and retell community stories- everyone has to tell their own. And there are many ways they can be heard.
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